Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Re: You got to be in it to win it!

S

How is this irrelevant? in Africa, this is the trend. All loser are sore losers. Independent or not the losers always call foul.
Besides, the DRC is a country the is trying to emerge from the rubbles of WW4, African style. it has to be seen in its own context. ETH '05 election has a different history and birth.



On 6/13/07, S wrote:
Whether Bemba refuses to accept results is irrelevant. More fool him. The fact is the votes were counted and certified by an independent body. I thought you would be able to understand the difference between genuine disenfranchisement and just being a sore loser. Big difference my friend.


On 6/13/07, T wrote:
Sirak,
and what happended to the opposition in the Congo?
He, Bemba, refused to accpet the decision of the IEC, his security crew had gun battles with the military, and he is now in exile in Portugal, vowing never to return.
So what does this prove, even with the so called IEC outcome is the same.
Besides, in ETH 05, the election board and all other aspects of the institutional make ups were known and ageed upon by all oppositions. All went very smoothly until they found out they lost. Then they unleashed their mafiossos on the public.
The reason that truth is stranger than fiction is that fiction has to have a rational thread running through it in order to be believable, whereas reality may be totally irrational. And irrational is what the XCUD is!


On 6/12/07, S wrote:
S1. the Congo, which recently became a democracy, held general elections last year and guess what....the votes were counted by their Independent Electoral Commission (IEC). "The members of the electoral commission were designated on an equal basis between different entities and components formed during the Congolese talks in 2002 and 2003. This equall formation has henceforth consecrated its independence." Why did they only have wait a couple of years to get this very important institution of Democracy and we Ethiopians have to wait 100 yrs to get ours? Oh yeah I forgot. We have to be patient and play within the system. 16 yrs and counting. Can't wait.


On 6/12/07, S1; wrote:
Nemo, you are making my point for me. The country has moved forward in the last 15 years faster than it has moved in the last thousand years. Could it have moved even further? Sure it could have with some policies here and there being tweaked. But that is crying over spilled milk. You got to play in the system to expedite the process so it won't take 100 years. In my opinion, CUD should have defended themselves in the courts and proven to the international observers and their supporters how shameful the judiciary system under the EPRDF is run. The bottom line is I don't see the gain they made by not defending themselves.

On 6/12/07, N; wrote:
I haven't read all the postings, but I'll just add this limited point.
The US civil war ended in 1865. This was a huge huge war, needless to
say. And yet brothers only got to vote in the south of the US in 1965.
I don't know what point you were trying to make, but 100 years of Jim
Crow is not the historical model we should wish upon Ethiopia. And it
wasn't just dogs and police batons bro. There were plenty of "strange
fruits hanging from the poplar trees" as Billie Holiday sang...

-N-

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